We had the good fortune of connecting with Pat and AJ Clark and we’ve shared our conversation below.

Hi Pat and AJ, can you share the most important lesson you’ve learned over the course of your career?
Always trust your gut and speak truth to power! It is easy to fall into the trap of working within the framework of your chosen industry that has been already cast in iron around you. And yes, while learning from the past can help educate you on the future, you should never be afraid to carve your own path into the wilderness. How many car salesmen probably had the idea for a Carvana-like service when they saw the impending digital takeover in the auto business, but instead were told to focus on weekly sales numbers by management who were selling Fords since the 1980s? All industry is changing and evolving at a breakneck pace, and if you do not open yourself up to changing with it, you will be a part of its past. Follow your instinct even if it means leaving the present company behind. Know your worth, tell the boss when they’re wrong and keep moving forward!

Can you open up a bit about your work and career? We’re big fans and we’d love for our community to learn more about your work.
We both come from the radio business, and can confirm that it was tough as nails to succeed in 20 years ago, and probably close to impossible to thrive in today! Luckily along the way, we were able to learn more and more about digital media as it evolved and saw that the future of the business was in streaming content. While we are radio rats at heart, it is a business that is no longer viable. So remember to always be looking towards the future!

If you had a friend visiting you, what are some of the local spots you’d want to take them around to?
Since we are music freaks it would have to be one of the many indoor or outdoor concert venues! Whether it is the hottest tour of the year hitting the Ak-Chin Pavillion, or an outdoor festival held in the desert, you’ll find us soaking in the vibes!

Shoutout is all about shouting out others who you feel deserve additional recognition and exposure. Who would you like to shoutout?
Since we have just transitioned our 15-year broadcast career into a weekly podcast series we would be nothing without our listening audience! Having a morning radio program on the FM dial between 2005-2020 meant we were swimming upstream with no paddle as the broadcasting and music business evolved around us almost monthly. We quickly figured out how the digital extension of our brand could expand us far beyond the reach of our traditional audience. When our career moved from station to station, state to state, and eventually from terrestrial radio to streaming platforms, we were able to bring our listeners with us. And now we have a global reach thanks to every person who chooses us to listen to!

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